Christian Parent, Crazy World

Wrestling with God is a mark of spiritual maturity, not weakness. In a world where suffering is inevitable, learning how to bring our honest questions, pain, and even complaints to God is essential for every Christian parent—and every believer. In this powerful episode of Christian Parent Crazy World, Catherine is joined by her closest friends, Susan Frost, a certified trauma coach, and Dr. Erin Barry , a licensed clinical counselor, for a raw and practical conversation about spiritual wrestling in seasons of suffering. Building on last week’s discussion of whether it’s “okay” to wrestle with God (spoiler: Scripture says it is), the episode dives into four anchors that help Christians navigate pain and doubt while drawing closer to God—even when His ways don’t make sense. Key Anchors Explored: Lean Into God’s Family: Find your inner circle—trusted companions who can sit with your pain without judgment or quick fixes. Not everyone is equipped to carry your emotional burdens, so pray for those who can and remember the value of community. Lean Into God’s Character: The enemy wants us to doubt God’s goodness and love. Catherine, Susan Frost, and Dr. Erin Barry share real-life stories where trusting God’s justice, mercy, and faithfulness became a lifeline in grief and unanswered questions. Lean Into God’s Word: When emotions run high and God feels distant, Scripture is a lifeline. The hosts unpack Psalm 44, marveling at how this ancient lament gives believers permission to be brutally honest with God—and models how to ground ourselves again in His faithfulness. Lean Into Lament: God can handle our raw truth. One third of the Psalms are laments, and even Jesus lamented in Gethsemane. Honest lament—expressing grief and pain to God, and ending with a declaration of trust—is a biblical pattern, not a spiritual failure. Why This Matters: The trio highlights how unresolved pain and disappointment often drive people away from faith. Yet suffering, approached biblically, can produce perseverance, deeper faith, and even “smelt meaning” from the smallest moments of hardship. Whether the loss is crushing or the pain seems insignificant, every tear matters to God. Practical Takeaways: Don’t minimize your suffering, big or small—bring it to God and safe community. Journal your journey, as the psalmists did, recording both raw complaints and moments of remembrance. Let God’s word give structure and permission to your lament. Remember: God’s shoulders are broad enough for your hardest questions. He invites you to wrestle—with Him, not away from Him. Guest Bios: Dr. Erin Barry holds a doctorate in Christian counseling, is a licensed clinical counselor, and daily helps people walk through their deepest valleys. Susan Frost is a certified trauma coach, couples counselor, in-home minister, and relentless advocate for the mercy and compassion of God. If you’re enduring a time of suffering—or walking alongside someone who is—this episode offers a biblical, hope-filled roadmap for navigating pain, doubt, and disappointment with honesty and faith. EPISODE LINKS Catherine Segars' FREE Christ-Centered Parenting Resources Lyle Phillips "What To Do with a Word from God" (Legacy Nashville) Share this episode with a friend who’s walking through a hard season, and tag your thoughts or questions with #ChristianParentCrazyWorld on social media. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Have you ever felt like you had to “just accept” whatever life throws your way—even while your heart was breaking inside? Maybe someone told you it’s unfaithful to question God, or maybe you’ve wondered if it’s even allowed to be honest about your hurt and confusion. Here’s the truth: almost every believer will face moments when trusting God feels like a wrestling match. This week on CHRISTIAN PARENT/CRAZY WORLD, we’re tackling the question no one wants to say out loud, but secretly we all wrestle with: Is it wrong to wrestle with God—or is it where the deepest faith is forged? In a culture that prizes tidy answers and smooth faith, Christian parents are invited into the messier reality: honest struggle with God may be the most faithful response to life’s hardest moments. For this conversation, host Catherine welcomes her two closest friends—licensed Christian counselor Dr. Erin Barry and certified trauma coach Susan Frost—for a raw, unscripted conversation about wrestling with God through pain, disappointment, and unanswered prayers. Drawing from years of theological dialog, personal loss, and journeys through suffering, they invite listeners to pull up a chair and experience what true biblical wrestling looks like in real life. Meet the Guests Dr. Erin Barry is a licensed clinical Christian counselor with decades of experience walking with individuals and families through seasons of pain, loss, and transformation. Together with her husband, she has devoted her life to ministry in marriage, worship, and family discipleship. Susan Frost is a certified trauma-informed life coach, deeply involved in hands-on ministry and mentoring with her husband. She’s helped individuals and couples process grief, trauma, and confusing seasons through godly wisdom—and is a trusted friend in the trenches. Highlights from This Episode The Permission to Wrestle: Catherine opens up about the tension many Christians feel—faith says “trust God’s sovereignty,” but scripture shows us heroes who bring anguish, confusion, and raw complaints to God (00:41). Biblical foundation: Jacob literally wrestles with God and is changed forever, marked both by his limp and by a deeper relationship (16:46, 18:12). Pain Is Not a Faith Failure: Erin unpacks how genuine suffering alters us—those who have wrestled with God often walk with humility, vulnerability, and new spiritual authority (18:12). Susan challenges the myth that “God’s going to do what He wants, no matter what.” Instead, God invites us into hard questions, purposeful struggle, and partnership in pursuit of His blessings (21:11). What Real Support Looks Like: The trio addresses how to choose safe “inner circle” people—and why it’s vital to avoid those who try to fix, minimize, or judge faith in the midst of pain. Erin notes different people offer distinct support—some handle logistics, others shoulder emotional weight. Both matter (32:30). Why most of us want to “tidy up” suffering, even for others—and why letting friends sit in the pain is a profound act of love (36:33). When the Small Things Break Us: Catherine shares a vulnerable story: after seasons spent praying for healing and witnessing loss, it was a friend’s lost cats—the seemingly “small” tragedy—that finally broke her down (41:24). The group examines why sometimes, it’s the little heartbreaks that trigger our deepest questions about God’s goodness and presence with our children (44:50). Wrestling vs. Losing Hope: Erin distinguishes healthy wrestling (honest emotion, always turning back to God) from true despair (turning away, hardening the heart, or numbness through addiction) (59:00). Susan gives voice to the ongoing question every Christian parent faces: “Is God really good to my kids?”—and why we become “prisoners of hope” (01:03:28). A Standout Quote “I don’t think that makes you a bad believer. I think that makes you an honest believer. The goal isn’t to wrestle away from God. It’s to wrestle our way toward Him.” — Catherine (05:43) Key Takeaway Wrestling with God is not a sign of weak faith but of honest, living faith. The biblical story—and the journeys of today’s faithful—show that lamenting, questioning, and even being angry with God can actually draw us closer to Him, giving us a deeper walk, lasting humility, and eventual hope. Sitting with our questions and pain—especially in the company of safe, truth-speaking friends—can transform our suffering into spiritual growth and resilience for our children to witness. Why This Matters In a world that wants quick answers and “perfect” Christianity, our kids (and we ourselves) need permission to bring our real struggles to God. Modeling honest faith—especially through disappointment—teaches the next generation that God is big enough for all our questions, aches, and doubts. Wrestling is not failure; it’s formation. For Christian parents: When your children hit confusing pain or watch you walk through it, what do they see? Can you show them a faith that survives real wrestling—and ultimately emerges with deeper hope? Episode Links inseparableLives.com – More about Dr. Erin Barry and her ministry. Yes, You Can Homeschool! The Terrified Parent’s Companion To Homeschool Success – Buy on Amazon Catherine’s Free Parenting Resources Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Can You Really Teach Your Kids to Study the Bible—If You Don’t Feel Confident Yourself? The “Step by Step” Method to a Lifetime of Scripture Confidence For generations, Christian parents have been told to center their homes and hearts on God’s Word, yet few have ever been taught how to truly study it—let alone guide their children to do the same. If you’ve ever felt insecure, intimidated, or unqualified when opening your Bible, this episode is for you. Join host Catherine and special guest Angie Baughman, founder of Steady On Ministries and developer of the Step by Step Bible Study Method, as they offer an empowering, conversation-driven crash course on making Bible study accessible, life-giving, and transformational for the whole family—from toddlers to teens and beyond. Meet the Guest: Angie Baughman Angie Baughman is a lifelong Bible teacher and the founder of Steady On Ministries, an organization passionate about rooting believers—especially parents—in the practical skills needed to stay anchored in God’s Word. With over 28 years of ministry, a powerful personal testimony, and tools used by everyone from school children to inmates, Angie created the Step by Step Bible Study Method to break down barriers and open Scripture to all experience levels. Highlights from This Episode Why So Many Christians Feel Insecure About Bible Study Angie and Catherine discuss the lack of mentorship in church culture, the intimidation factor of unfamiliar terms, and the universal fear of “looking stupid,” even among lifelong believers 07:02. The Power of Slowing Down Through vulnerable stories, the hosts reveal how shame and insecurity can keep women (and men) silent—and how authentic community and gentle tools provide an accessible on-ramp for everyone, including the “Tracys” in our Bible studies 08:47. A Practical Walkthrough—Step by Step Angie unveils her 5-step study method, combining word study, translation comparison, biblical context, enemy-lie discernment, and personal application—transforming even a single verse into spiritual nourishment lasting all day 17:54. Real-Life Application In a powerful demonstration, Catherine shares how a familiar verse (Psalm 40:2) deepened through the method, revealing unexpected layers (did you know “rock” can mean “fortress”?) and helping her battle anxiety and pray more purposefully for her children 29:38. Equipping the Next Generation Detailed guidance on using the method with kids of all ages, from letting them pick words to discovering the lies of the enemy—a perfect fit for family devotions, homeschool routines, or real-life spiritual conversations 46:15. Accessible Resources for All Details on free step-by-step kits, family tools, and online communities so that every parent—no matter their background—can confidently open God’s Word and invite their children into the adventure. Standout Quote “Pastors and Bible teachers can share what the Holy Spirit said to them. But they cannot tell us what the Holy Spirit says to us when we study. That’s why it’s so important for us to have the skills to go into the Word on our own.” — Angie Key Takeaway No matter your past, education, or current insecurity, you can confidently unlock the treasures of Scripture—for yourself and your children. It doesn’t require expertise—just willingness, a doable method, and the expectation that the Holy Spirit will meet you—and your family—right where you are. Why This Matters In a culture obsessed with spiritual shortcuts and superficial understanding, Christian parents face a vital task: not just filling minds with Bible facts, but modeling for their families how to slow down, ask questions, and hear directly from God’s Word. The “Step by Step” approach isn’t just another study method—it’s an invitation into deeper relationship, radical honesty, and intergenerational faith that flourishes through every season. Episode Links Steady On Ministries & Free Bible Study Starter Kit: livesteadyon.com Angie Baughman’s Step by Step Family Kit & more: Steady On Ministries (see “Free Resources” tab) Catherine’s Parenting Resources: https://catherinesegars.com/resources Call to Action Christian parents, what’s keeping you from digging into God’s Word alongside your kids? What might change—for you and your children—if you stepped onto the “on ramp” and discovered the richness of Scripture one word at a time? Share your story or your next step with us using #ChristianParentCrazyWorld, and consider inviting your children to join you in the adventure of discovering God’s Word—step by step. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What if your child’s screen time could help them meet Jesus, shape their character, and spark conversations that last a lifetime? In a culture overflowing with children’s entertainment, how can Christian parents find programming that does more than distract or “babysit”? In this compelling episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine sits down with Jess Wolstenholm, Vice President of Education & Publishing at Minno and editor of the award-winning Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids. With over 25 years of children’s ministry leadership and deep roots in curriculum development, Jess Wolstenholm brings powerful insights into how media can nourish—not just occupy—our children’s souls. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: A Better Media Diet for Kids Why “just clean” isn’t enough. Catherine and Jess break down the difference between spiritually “nutritious” content and empty-calorie screen time. They challenge parents to curate what their children watch, seeking stories that reinforce godly character and biblical truth rather than just avoid harm. Faith Formation through Storytelling Discover how a child’s earliest glimpses of God shape their faith journey, and why representing God’s character—holy, loving, nurturing, and present—is essential from the very start. Jess Wolstenholm shares how programming choices directly impact a child’s understanding of God, values, and themselves. Representation Matters—Even for Young Faith “There’s not enough representation of faith on screen for kids.” Hear how Minno creates and curates media—like the innovative Young David shorts—that let children see relatable, not cheesy, portrayals of Christian life. Find out why seeing faith lived out on screen can be just as important as hearing Bible stories. Old Treasures, New Purpose Relive childhood favorites like VeggieTales and discover impactful series like Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith and Liberty’s Kids—all available on Minno. Whether it's vintage animation or state-of-the-art storytelling, these programs offer rich entry points for conversations about faith, history, and courage. Tools for Intentional Parenting Learn how to turn media moments into meaningful faith conversations. From five-minute family devotionals to printable discussion guides and screen-free audio options, Jess Wolstenholm shares practical ways for parents to build on what their children watch—even when life gets busy. “We want kids to get to know the character of God—not just as a rule-keeper, but as a creator who delights in them.” – Jess Wolstenholm What Sets Minno Apart Find out how Minno’s holistic, on-screen/off-screen approach (think: devotionals, conversation guides, coloring pages, and audio stories) is designed to support busy Christian parents and equip the next generation for a resilient, relational faith. A Hopeful Vision for Gen Alpha Jess Wolstenholm shares her dream for the next generation: that children would “know Jesus and understand His word,” not through shame or rule-keeping, but with a healthy, balanced grasp of gospel truth and the goodness of God. Notable Moments: The surprising connection between the word “Minno” and abiding in Christ. How “vintage” content like Torchlighters and Liberty’s Kids help children step outside the “first world bubble” and see global faith and history. Simple questions parents can ask after screen time to spark deep, everyday discipleship. Why This Matters: Your child’s view of God, their character, and their choices are being shaped by what fills their hearts and minds each day. What if the shows they watch could help you disciple them, not just distract them? Modern Application: Let’s intentionally leverage media as a springboard for spiritual formation. Whether you find a new family devotional routine or simply ask one more question at the dinner table, these conversations could echo for years. About the Guest: Jess Wolstenholm is Vice President of Education & Publishing at Minno, editor and executive producer of the Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, and a seasoned leader in children’s ministry and publishing. She is passionate about equipping Christian families to nurture healthy, lifelong faith. Ready to turn your child’s screen time into soul time? What steps can you take this week to make sure the shows your kids watch are helping them experience Jesus—every single day? Dive into this episode and discover resources that could transform your family’s faith journey. Episode Links & Resources Minno Streaming Platform (Try Free!) Featured Series: Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith, Young David Bonus: Free 7-day trial and downloadable devotionals for families Catherine Segars Resources Listen, reflect, and join the conversation—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What if the core purpose of your parenting isn’t what you’ve always believed? In a world obsessed with outcomes and control, Christian parents are challenged to embrace a radical shift: letting go of ownership and stepping into the liberating role of an ambassador for Christ in their children’s lives. In this transformative episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine welcomes Candace Nassar, founder and executive director of MomQ, a mentor-led discipleship ministry designed to equip Christian mothers with biblical wisdom for every season. Drawing from her own journey from a secular background to devoted Christ-follower, Candace Nassar offers authentic insight and practical encouragement, inviting parents to rethink how—and why—they parent. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Redefining the Mission: Purposeful Parenting Why it’s easy to skip over the “why” of parenting and focus on performance or success (00:22) The critical distinction between “ownership parenting” and “ambassador parenting”—and how this shift can transform your family (02:06, 25:56) A Testimony of Transformation Candace Nassar’s powerful story: from a broken home and secular ambitions to surrendering everything for Christ and discovering her true identity as a mother (04:49, 13:04) The generational impact when one mother bravely says “yes” to God Cultural Pressure & Parental Stress—Setting a New Foundation Why our culture pushes parents to control, manage, and perform—and how this leads to overwhelming stress, anxiety, and fear (19:36) How social media and comparison culture fuel burnout and feelings of inadequacy Trust vs. Control: Finding Freedom “Control is what I tend to when I’m struggling to trust.” How to spot control creeping into your parenting, even in well-intentioned moments (29:41) Practical red flags: When anxiety spikes, it may be a sign you’re crossing the line into ownership (39:01) Ambassador Parenting: The Heart of Christ at Home Candace Nassar shares how parenting as Christ’s ambassador reframes discipline, discipleship, and daily rhythms (41:32) “Gentle firmness”: Rejecting harsh authoritarianism and passive permissiveness by modeling the compassion and boundaries of Jesus (46:45) Infusing faith into the ordinary—dinnertime reflections, spontaneous prayers, and seeing God in daily moments (48:56) Moving Forward: Grace and Growth Step-by-step guidance for moms convicted by ownership parenting—beginning with honest reflection and a prayer: “Lord, search my heart. Show me where I’m trying to control, and help me trust you more.” (52:05) Key takeaway: The ultimate goal is not to raise successful children, but kingdom-minded disciples who love and serve the Lord (55:21) Standout Quotes: “If we get the foundation wrong, even with the best intentions, we can end up striving for outcomes that were never ours to control.” — Catherine “When we realize our children aren’t ours to own but to steward for God, it changes everything.” — Candace Nassar “Control is an illusion. If we can’t trust God with our kids, parenting becomes exhausting.” — Candace Nassar About the Guest: Candace Nassar is the founder and executive director of MomQ and a passionate mentor to Christian moms nationwide. With a background in business and education, and extensive ministry experience, she helps mothers move from striving and self-reliance to purpose and grace-grounded parenting. Learn more about MomQ’s curriculum and resources at momq.org. Why This Matters: In a culture that judges parents by their children’s achievements, our faith calls moms and dads to trade anxiety and control for the freedom and fruitfulness of ambassador parenting—reflecting the heart of Christ at home. Modern Application: Parents, where are you tempted to “own” your children’s path, and where could you invite God’s grace to take the lead? Get candid, reflect honestly, and begin the journey from anxiety to trust today. EPISODE LINKS: MomQ, Biblical Wisdom for Christian Moms MomQ Podcast (available on all major platforms) Call to Action: How might your relationship with your child—and with God—change if you made the daily choice to become His ambassador instead of their owner? Share your thoughts, questions, or breakthroughs with us by tagging #ChristianParentCrazyWorld on social media. Tune in, reflect, and step into this new, freeing vision of parenting today. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Teen suicide is a subject no parent ever wants to face—but in today’s world, it’s a crisis that cannot be ignored. In this heartrending and hope-filled "Best Of" episode, Catherine sits down with featured guest Emma Benoit, a vibrant young woman whose hidden battle with anxiety led to a suicide attempt that changed her life forever, and with expert guest Jennifer Ellers, a Christian counselor and crisis responder specializing in youth suicide prevention. Host Catherine brings listeners a gripping and candid conversation about the epidemic of teen suicide—a tragedy impacting families in every community. With staggering statistics showing suicide as the second leading cause of death among young people, the need for awareness and action has never been greater. Special Guests: Emma Benoit: Once a vibrant, high-achieving varsity cheerleader, Emma survived a self-inflicted gunshot wound at 16. Paralyzed from the waist down, Emma has transformed her pain into purpose, becoming a passionate advocate for mental health and suicide prevention. Jennifer Ellers: Christian counselor, crisis responder, trainer, and author specializing in youth suicide prevention. Jennifer’s insights bridge clinical expertise with faith-based hope. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Emma’s Hidden Battle Hear Emma Benoit candidly recount how crippling anxiety and private pain led her to the brink—while outwardly, no one suspected she was suffering. “No one knew...because I was ashamed of it,” she shares, highlighting the dangerous power of stigma and secrecy (08:17). Warning Signs & Early Intervention Jennifer Ellers unpacks what every parent needs to know: the evolving age of onset (with cases now seen as young as six years old!), the often-masked signs of distress, and why honest, nonjudgmental conversations are the most important tool parents possess (10:12). The Seductive Lie of Suicide Both Emma Benoit and the experts stress that “no one wants to end their life—they want to end their pain.” The moment after her attempt, Emma was flooded with regret—a pattern echoed by many survivors. Suicide is rarely about death, but the desperate desire for relief (22:31). The Spiritual Battle Beneath the Surface Catherine, Emma Benoit, and Jennifer Ellers break the silence on the spiritual warfare at play—how despair is more than physical or emotional, but a real assault on hope itself. “You won’t convince me there’s not a spiritual component… that voice, that seduction, I absolutely believe is Satan,” Jennifer Ellers declares (34:56). Hope, Healing, and Taking Action This episode is not just a call to awareness—it’s a message of hope. Emma’s road to recovery, both physically and spiritually, is nothing short of miraculous. She offers a lifeline to every young person listening: “It’s okay to feel that way. Just hang in there. It gets better, and hope is so real” (40:34). Practical Guidance for Parents: Ask the uncomfortable questions, openly and directly. Cultivate an environment where feelings are named and normalized. Treat mental health as a body, mind, AND spirit issue—seek help, including professional and faith-based support. If there is a threat of harm, remove potential means and seek immediate intervention. Notable Moments: “Death isn’t what [the suicidal] are after—it’s the escape from the turmoil and pain.” – Emma Benoit “It’s a mind, body, spirit issue. If you leave out any one aspect, you’re not treating the whole person.” – Jennifer Ellers “God has a plan to deliver everyone. We have to submit to His prescription, whatever that means.” – Catherine About the Guests: Emma Benoit shares her story widely through My Ascension, a documentary shown in schools and communities across the country. Jennifer Ellers is a leader in Christian counseling and crisis intervention, affiliated with the American Association of Christian Counselors. Connect & Resources: Learn more about Emma’s mission and the My Ascension film: myascension.us Find counseling and suicide prevention resources: aacc.net In a crisis? Call or text 988 for immediate help. List of Scriptures to pray over those struggling with mental illness: Catherine's Resources PARENT CHALLENGE: Are you willing to look beneath the surface and have the hard conversations? This week, ask your child—even if they seem “fine”—how they’re really feeling. What would happen if you treated emotional pain as seriously as physical pain, and taught your family to do the same? Listen now, and help bring hope into the darkness—because as Christian parents, we are called to fight for life, truth, and healing for our children. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

There’s an invisible crisis happening right before our eyes—men are suffering in silence, and too often, the warning signs go unseen until it’s too late. In this raw and deeply personal episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine confronts the urgent mental health struggles facing the men and boys we love most. Following a heartbreaking loss in her own circle—a former student and friend of her son who took his own life—Catherine welcomes accomplished physician and public health leader Dr. Tyler Evans to the show. With over four decades of crisis response in 110 countries and expertise in infectious diseases and addiction medicine, Dr. Tyler Evans shines a light on the hidden epidemic of men’s mental health. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Staggering Statistics: Four out of five suicides in the U.S. occur among men—why are their cries for help so often missed? Root Causes Unmasked: Dr. Tyler Evans breaks down the key drivers, including emotional suppression, cultural pressures, “emotional illiteracy,” and the uniquely lethal methods men often choose in a crisis. Signs You Can’t Ignore: Learn how to spot the subtle and overt behavioral changes, increased substance use, and other red flags that surface before a crisis moment. Practical Ways to Show Up: Catherine and Dr. Tyler Evans discuss actionable strategies—asking reflectively, listening without judgment, staying connected, and reducing access to lethal means. Parenting Through Prevention: How can Christian parents—especially mothers—foster emotional intelligence in boys, help break generational cycles of silence, and make space for “big feelings” in everyday conversations? Faith as a Lifeline: Catherine reminds listeners of the power of prayer and the importance of turning to Scripture, partnership with Christian counselors, and supporting one another in faith. Notable Episode Moments: Dr. Tyler Evans explains the difference in suicide methods and why men’s emotional struggles so often go undocumented—and therefore untreated—at 07:41. “Giving men permission can come with such a sigh of relief,” Dr. Tyler Evans urges at 21:00, championing persistence and compassion over confrontation. The vital role of removing lethal means like firearms or dangerous medications during acute crises is emphasized at 30:38. “It is not too late to break generational cycles,” Dr. Tyler Evans encourages parents at 25:21, pointing to signs of hope among Gen Z and Gen Alpha. Why This Matters: This episode isn’t just about statistics—it’s a call for Christian parents to become vigilant, compassionate first responders in their own homes and communities. The silence must be broken, and the cycles of emotional isolation interrupted, for the sake of our husbands and sons. Modern Application: Are you nurturing an atmosphere where your sons and husbands can share their deepest feelings? Are you ready to ask uncomfortable questions and respond with grace, even when it's hard? As believers, let’s lead the charge in seeing and supporting the men in our lives, before another tragedy takes place. About the Guest: Dr. Tyler Evans is an infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, and public health leader, author of Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics, and the former Chief Medical Officer for NYC’s COVID-19 response. He currently leads Wellness Equity Alliance, focusing on accessible mental health care for all. Connect with Dr. Tyler Evans: wellnessequityalliance.com drtylerevansmd.com Book: Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics (Johns Hopkins University Press) EPISODE LINKS: National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Dial 988 Scripture list for parents praying for mental health (on Catherine’s website) Thought-Provoking Question for Listeners: Are you creating space for the men in your life—sons, husbands, brothers, fathers—to admit when they’re not okay? What intentional steps will you take today to foster emotional honesty, offer support, and build a family culture where struggles are seen and hope is never out of reach? Don’t miss this crucial conversation—and be sure to share it with someone who needs it most. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

How Can a Good God Allow So Much Evil and Suffering? Wrestling with the Toughest Question in Faith For many parents—and for the next generation—one question stands above the rest as the #1 barrier to Christian belief: If God is good and all-powerful, why does He allow evil and suffering in the world? This episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World dives bravely into that profound dilemma, equipping parents to address their children’s toughest doubts and their own deepest struggles. Join host Catherine as she sits down with Dr. Douglas Groothuis, one of the most respected minds in Christian apologetics. Dr. Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University, and the author of over 20 books, including the acclaimed Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith. Beyond his accolades, listeners will be moved by Dr. Groothuis’s personal journey through heartbreak and grief, offering a unique blend of intellectual rigor and heartfelt empathy. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why Every Worldview Faces the Problem of Evil Dr. Groothuis breaks down why not just Christianity, but every philosophy—atheism, pantheism, secularism—must wrestle with the existence of evil. Discover how Christianity uniquely anchors the concepts of good and evil. A Personal Journey Through Suffering In a moving account, Dr. Groothuis shares how the loss of his brilliant wife Rebecca to dementia challenged—and deepened—his faith, giving listeners a firsthand look at trusting God in the depths of pain 16:55. The “Greater Good” and Soul-Making Explore the idea that God can use pain, loss, and evil for a greater good—one we may not fully see from our limited vantage. As Dr. Groothuis says, “I can trust the God who I know for the things I can’t understand” 16:49. Lament: Biblical Permission to Grieve with God The conversation tackles the Biblical tradition of lament—bringing our confusion, anger, and sorrow honestly to God. Dr. Groothuis points to the Psalms and the disciples’ struggles, reminding us that doubt and pain are not signs of weak faith, but invitations to deeper trust 31:19. Answering Teens’ Toughest Questions From why God couldn’t create a world with free will and no evil, to whether evil actually exists, the episode tackles real questions from young people with honesty, logic, and compassion. Heaven: The True Hope for Suffering Believers Dr. Groothuis illuminates the ultimate Christian hope—a new heavens and new earth where suffering is redeemed, not forgotten, and God’s presence is our deepest joy 54:56. Notable Moments & Quotes: “I can trust the God who I know is there for the things that I can’t understand.” — Dr. Groothuis “Every worldview has a problem with evil—it’s not just Christianity.” — Dr. Groothuis “Jesus is the only one who has the words of life.” — Catherine 01:02:51 “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.” — CS Lewis, quoted by Catherine 44:37 “Where else are we going to go? Nothing else will satisfy.” — Catherine reflecting on Peter’s words 35:06 Why This Matters: For Christian parents, the challenge of suffering is not just an abstract question—it strikes at the heart of faith formation in our families. This episode arms parents with both deeply reasoned answers and encouragement to walk alongside their children in seasons of doubt, suffering, or loss. Modern Application: No home is untouched by suffering. Parents, are you equipped to guide your children through questions about God’s goodness in a hurting world? Can your family find meaning in pain, and hold onto hope in hardship? About the Guest: Dr. Douglas Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University and the author of over 20 books, including Christian Apologetics and Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness—A Philosopher’s Lament. His insights come not only from scholarly study, but from a heart acquainted with sorrow and a faith refined by fire. EPISODE LINKS: Dr. Groothuis' Website Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness—A Philosopher’s Lament Truth Tribe Podcast with Dr. Groothuis Emerging Gen Z May Deliver Huge Blow to Religion in U.S. (Baptist News Global, 6/8/18) Thought-Provoking Question: How is your family responding to the painful “why” questions of life? Are you willing to walk with your children into the hard places—and point them toward the only One who holds the words of life? Tune in for an episode that will challenge, comfort, and equip you to lead your family with courageous faith—even when the answers aren’t easy. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

At some point, every Christian parent finds themselves facing “giants” — immense obstacles and seemingly impossible circumstances that stand between them and God’s promises. How you respond in these moments determines whether you move forward into the life God intends, or let fear and discouragement hold you back. In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine invites listeners into her own challenging season—her husband’s unexpected job loss, a year of solo parenting, and a disastrous home renovation that threatened to derail everything. With remarkable honesty, Catherine unpacks the real struggles families encounter as they pursue God’s calling in the midst of overwhelming adversity. But this episode is more than a story of hardship. Catherine shares six powerful, actionable steps for any believer facing a giant—whether in their marriage, career, finances, health, or faith: Gain God’s Perspective: When circumstances look hopeless, seek to see your situation through God's eyes—not just the intimidating physical realities (08:01). Drawing inspiration from Elisha’s story in 2 Kings 6, Catherine encourages listeners to pray for spiritual vision that reveals God’s power at work beyond what’s visible. Keep Your Eyes on God, Not the Enemy: It’s tempting to focus on the size of your problems, but victory comes from fixing your gaze on the God who is bigger than any obstacle (13:10). Stories of Moses and Peter remind us that fear grows when we focus on the enemy, but faith grows when we focus on God. Find Your Fight Songs: Worship is a weapon. Catherine describes how building a playlist of battle songs, like "Greater is He" by Blanca, helped her replace fear with hope—even when nothing changed externally (18:09). She urges parents to let worship shape their outlook during trials. Gather Your Weapons: Know and wield the Word of God. Catherine describes creating lists of personalized scriptures to pray daily over her children, her family, and her battles. She emphasizes the importance of having these spiritual “weapons” ready before the fight comes (22:41). Partner in Prayer: Giants don’t fall through solo efforts—find others to pray with and for you. Whether it’s a spouse, small group, or prayer team, uniting faith with others shifts the battle (27:08). Speak to Your Giant—Prophesy Its Future: Refuse to agree with the enemy’s narrative. Catherine recounts how publicly rejecting the enemy’s threats and speaking agreement with God’s promises led to unexpected breakthroughs—in her bathroom remodel, in her home sale, and in her family’s future (31:05). She clarifies: this isn’t “name it, claim it” theology, but the biblical principle of aligning your words and faith with God's revealed plan rather than fear. By sharing her vulnerability, setbacks, and ultimate victories, Catherine both comforts and challenges parents: your fight with giants is part of God’s story for you. This episode provides not only encouragement, but also a spiritual toolkit you can use immediately—so you can keep moving toward God’s promises, no matter how daunting the battle seems. Resources and Further Support Free scripture resources and faith-building tools available at Catherine’s website Blanca "Greater Is He" For any parent standing at their own “Red Sea,” this episode equips you to see beyond your current circumstances, lean into practical faith, and trust the God who is always greater than your giant. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Too often, our entire healthcare system is designed to chase symptoms, not solutions. We numb the pain, mask the problem, and patch the visible cracks—rarely pausing to dig for the real reason something is wrong. But what if this approach is quietly failing our children and families, creating lifelong challenges where there could have been correction and healing? In this memorable episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked arenas where symptom-chasing can rob families of true wellness: our children’s oral and airway health during sleep. Bringing practical wisdom, expert insight, and personal experience, Catherine is joined by Dr. Kallie Hale—one of the country’s leading dentists specializing in dental sleep medicine and airway health. Free Dental Airway Assessment: Visit www.toothpillow.com/cpcw and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value. Meet the Guest: Dr. Kallie Hale is the co-founder and Chief Clinical Officer of The Airway Dentists and the founder of Tooth Pillow, a teledentistry platform helping families nationwide address airway-related root causes of health issues. With a national speaking career and a passion for pediatric sleep-disordered breathing, Dr. Hale has made it her mission to change how dentistry and medicine care for children’s well-being—by getting to the source of symptoms rather than merely managing them. Episode Highlights & Key Insights: The “duct tape” problem in medicine and parenting: Many health challenges—headaches, poor sleep, crooked teeth, even mental health—are met with short-term remedies rather than curiosity about their origins (Catherine, 03:38). Oral health, airway function, and your child’s future: Dr. Hale describes how issues like crooked teeth, mouth breathing, tooth grinding, and even bedwetting can signal deep-seated airway problems that affect not just dental aesthetics, but growth, learning, and emotional health (Dr. Hale, 12:00). Rethinking orthodontics: For generations, standard dental practice has started “too late,” waiting until adolescence to straighten teeth and sometimes extracting healthy teeth—while missing the root cause: underdeveloped jaw and airway structures. Dr. Hale urges, “The way we do our orthodontic treatment on our children now will determine how they live for the rest of their life, and how they age.” (Dr. Kallie Hale, 13:41) Signs parents can’t afford to ignore: Grinding, snoring, chronic tiredness, allergies, dark under-eye circles, and persistent bedwetting are early warning lights on the dashboard. “That’s your check engine light,” warns Dr. Hale. From symptom to solution: Tooth Pillow—a simple, child-friendly appliance—offers early, gentle intervention that addresses the root of airway-related dental and sleep struggles, and their virtual platform means families everywhere can access screening and help. Spiritual parallels: Just like in health, our faith calls us to look below the surface—not just masking the manifest struggles but seeking the deeper heart issues, trusting God to reveal the true diagnosis and pathway to healing. Catherine shares personal anecdotes—her own long path through dental fixes, her children’s struggles, and the frustration of being offered “duct tape” solutions, never a path to wholeness. Dr. Hale vulnerably discusses what it cost her to become a voice for root-cause medicine in a profession slow to change, and how she’s equipping parents to “challenge the narrative” in everything—from their dentist’s advice to the way they advocate for their children’s health and future. Are you masking symptoms or courageously seeking the root? As Christian parents, we’re called not just to fix what’s on the surface, but to ask better questions, seek deeper truth, and partner with God in healing—from head to heart. Don’t miss this episode for hope, wisdom, and a practical roadmap to get out of the symptom-chasing maze and into true wellness for your whole family. Take Action: Has your parenting or healthcare journey been focused on surface fixes? Visit www.toothpillow.com/cpcw and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value. Instead of just a form response, one of their doctors records a video walking through your child's photos one by one, explaining exactly what they see, why it matters, and what they recommend. You watch it on your own time, revisit it later, or share it with family. Where is God calling me to look deeper—to discover the root, restore what’s broken, and help my child become all He created them to be? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

There is no greater heartbreak for a Christian parent than watching a beloved child drift away from the faith. Yet in today’s world, navigating doubt and rebellion in our kids is increasingly common — and even the most dedicated parents may find themselves walking the painful road of the prodigal. In this powerful and hope-filled episode, Catherine concludes her two-part “Best Of” series on Gen Z with Laurie Christine , originally aired on Redeeming the Chaos. Together, they tackle the hard questions: How do you parent a child who’s struggling in their faith? How do you protect your relationship and retain influence when your child is questioning, doubting, or rejecting core beliefs? What actions can help draw a wandering heart back — and what parental mistakes might actually push them further away? Seven Big Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith Catherine briefly recaps the top reasons young people cite for leaving Christianity, referencing Barna Research: Struggling with the existence of evil and suffering Perceiving Christians as hypocrites Belief that science contradicts the Bible Dismissing Christianity as a “fairy tale” Disillusionment over injustices in Christian history Apathy or perceived irrelevance of church Negative experiences with Christians or church Guidance for Parents Navigating a Prodigal Child's Journey With raw honesty and wisdom, Catherine draws from her own family’s story and years of hosting Christian Parent Crazy World. She and Laurie Christine outline practical steps — and critical mindset shifts — for parents of teens and adult children who are wrestling with faith: Prayer is your first line of defense. Catherine emphasizes the unique spiritual authority parents have in prayer over their children, describing the importance of persistent, faith-filled intercession. Know your stage of parenting. Are you a caregiver, cop, coach, or counselor? Catherine details how your approach must shift as your child grows, especially in the late teen and adult years. Lead with unconditional love. Affirm your love no matter your child’s beliefs or choices. Laurie Christine highlights the importance of commending kids when they open up about doubt or disagreement, not reacting with panic or punishment. Set and communicate healthy boundaries. While extending grace, be clear about the behavioral standards for living in your home — but avoid enabling harmful choices. Don’t give endless sermons. Teens know what you believe. What they need now is to see the love of Christ in action and to encounter God for themselves. Reject the urge to convince, convict, coerce, or control. Catherine unpacks how these tactics either step into God’s role or mirror the enemy’s strategies. Instead, keep your focus on love, wise counsel, and prayer. Humble yourself and own your mistakes. Apologize when you’ve erred. Humility builds bridges and trust. Releasing Guilt and Entrusting Your Child to God Every parent will wonder “What did I do wrong?” Catherine compassionately reassures listeners that even a perfect parent—God Himself—had two children in the Garden who chose rebellion. She delineates what is a parent’s responsibility, what belongs to the child, and what only God can do. Parents must let go of crushing guilt and trust God’s relentless pursuit of prodigals. Practical Resources Catherine references a bundle of free resources for parents of prodigals, including scripture prayer lists and episode archives, available at her website. Powerful Reminders Above all, Catherine reminds parents that God’s love is unconditional — “while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Christian parents must model this same radical love, never shunning, always hoping, and continually interceding for their children. Guest Bio: Laurie Christine is host of Redeeming the Chaos and a mother of four boys. Her passion is equipping moms to raise courageous sons rooted in Christ. This honest and practical episode is a lifeline for any parent feeling the heartbreak of doubt, struggle, or estrangement. Whether your child is beginning to question, entrenched in rebellion, or seemingly far from God, you’ll find encouragement, wisdom, and hope for the journey. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Parents cannot afford to ignore why so many Gen Zers are walking away from Christianity. Understanding the reasons behind this dramatic cultural shift is essential for any Christian parent hoping to nurture enduring faith in their children. In this sobering and highly relevant episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine is joined by guest Laurie Christine (author, podcast host, and biblical parenting coach) for a deep dive into the top seven reasons Gen Z is leaving the faith. Pulling from recent Barna research, Catherine outlines the most prominent factors cited by young people, including the prevalence of evil and suffering, hypocrisy within the church, challenges regarding science, accusations that Christianity is “fairy tale,” historical injustices, church irrelevance, and personal bad experiences with Christians. Each of these issues is explored, not only in terms of what is driving the exodus but with practical suggestions and resources for parents at every stage—from young children in the home to teens on the brink of adulthood. Key Points Covered: A Crisis of Worldview in Churches Only 37% of pastors and 51% of evangelical pastors have a biblical worldview (09:24), according to the American Worldview Inventory. Parents are cautioned not to outsource spiritual formation solely to churches—home must be the primary place for faith development. The Power and Pervasiveness of Cultural Influence Social media, internet, and secular worldviews bombard kids daily, requiring parents to proactively engage in conversations about pantheism, secularism, suffering, identity, and more (10:49). Barna’s Seven Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith (12:02), (32:55) 1. I have a hard time believing that a good God would allow so much evil or suffering in the world (29%): see EPISODE 66 w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis 2. Christians are hypocrites (23%) 3. I believe science refutes too much of the Bible (20%) See Dr. Stephen Meyer: Signature in the Cell, The Return of the God Hypothesis, and Darwin’s Doubt; also see Dr. John Lennox (The “God Delusion “ Debate with Richard Dawkins) 4. I don’t believe in fairy tales (19%) see “The Case for Christ” & “The Case for Christ for Kids” by Lee Strobel 5. There are too many injustices in the history of Christianity (15%) see Episode 9: How Does Christian Worldview Creates the World We all Want to Live”, see Episodes 93, 94, & 95 w/ Os Guinness 6. I used to go to church, but it’s just not important to me anymore (12%) 7. I had a bad experience in church/with a Christian (6%) see Episodes 39, 40, 41, & 42; see “When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional & Spiritual Abuse” by Dr. Chuck DeGroat Parenting Solutions for Each Season Practical foundation-building for young children: daily devotions, scripture memory using music, and apologetics resources like Foundation Worldview (21:45). Teen and adult strategies: prioritizing tough conversations, choosing churches wisely, and seeking out other trusted Christian influences when parental voice decreases (19:08), (25:20). The unique call to pray for, encourage, and intentionally speak truth into the distinctive gifts and struggles of each child. Featured Resources Foundation Worldview curriculum (with discount code) Books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGrow Podcast episode recommendations for parents of prodigals and those wrestling with the problem of evil Guest bio: Laurie Christine is an author, podcast host, wife, and mom to four adventurous boys. She leads Redeeming the Chaos, equipping moms of boys to raise courageous kids rooted in Christ. Want deeper guidance? Subscribe to Catherine’s website for a free prodigal bundle (podcasts, articles, scripture lists, and music), plus weekly encouragement and parenting resources. For parents walking the prodigal path, there is hope—you are not alone. Do not miss this critical conversation—because if we want to help Gen Z return to the faith, we must first understand why they’re leaving. RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CITED: “Emerging Gen Z may deliver huge blow to religion in U.S.” by Jeff Brumley (June 8, 2018) The American Worldview Inventory in 2022 highlights worldview beliefs of American pastors. “Only Half of Evangelical Pastors Possess a Christian Worldview: Incidence Even Lower for Most Denominations” (Cultural Research Cente::ACU) ACU Cultural Research Center Worldview Inventory 2020-current Foundation Worldview Curriculum (use “CPCW10” code for 10% discount) Apologia: What We Believe (4 volume set) EPISODES CITED: Episode 57: “How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz Episode 58: “7 Lies Culture is Selling Our Kids: Are They Buying?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz Episode 72: “What Do People Leaving the Faith often Get Wrong about God?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowics Episode 84: “How To Learn More Scripture in 2024 Than You Ever Have Before” w/ Zac Fitzsimmons Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

No parenting strategy—no matter how faithful or intentional—guarantees your child will follow God. In one of the most honest and tender episodes to date, Catherine and her guest, D.J Harry, open up about the heartache and hope of raising children in a culture that stands in stark opposition to biblical truth. This is a special “best of” episode that revisits a conversation rich with candor, compassion, and wisdom, as Catherine and D.J Harry confront the painful question: Does godly parenting always produce godly kids? Drawing on profound lessons from the book of Daniel, they discuss what it means to parent faithfully in an ungodly world—and what to do when the outcome isn't what you prayed for. Key Takeaways & Topics: No Guaranteed Formula There’s no five, ten, or twenty-step plan that will ensure your child’s salvation. Every child must ultimately make their own faith decision, and parents are called to obedience and faithfulness, not results. Lessons from Daniel: Parenting in Babylon The unpredictable timing and nature of faith-testing in the next generation The importance of a well-rounded education and teaching children how to learn and discern Faith transference as a relational—not mechanical—process Training children to appeal to authority and stand firm amid pressure, without parents fighting every battle for them When the Result Is Not What You Expected Catherine shares her own experience of parenting a child who wrestled with faith and doubt, giving voice to the pain, uncertainty, and relentless prayer that many Christian parents experience. She emphasizes the foundational role parents play and affirms that their faithfulness is never wasted. Identity Under Fire The world seeks to rename and redefine our children’s identities—much like Daniel and his friends in Babylon. Knowing who God says they are is essential for resilience. Grace for Parents Catherine dispels shame and blame with biblical wisdom: even the perfect parent—God—had children who rebelled. God judges our faithfulness, not our results. Hope and Practical Help Real-life stories of wandering and return Prayers and scripture resources for parents of prodigals Catherine's personal update: her daughter's faith journey over several years, highlighting the power of persistent, loving prayer For Listeners Walking the Prodigal Road: This episode is a lifeline for parents burdened with worry or sorrow over children who question or walk away from faith. You’ll find encouragement, solidarity, and actionable hope alongside scriptural truth and raw honesty. Guest Bio: D.J Harry is a pastor, speaker, podcaster, and father of four. He and his wife, Lori, cohost the Better Together podcast, which explores biblical wisdom for marriage and parenting. Learn more at growingbettertogether.org. Parenting Resource Highlight: Subscribers to Catherine’s website receive access to her Prodigal Bundle: podcasts, articles, five pages of scriptures to pray over your kids, and more. If you need prayer or support, email Catherine at katherine@katherineseekers.com. You are not alone. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

How do we raise children who stand strong—and even shine—in a culture determined to pull them away from God? In this special archive series of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine dives deep into one of the most urgent questions facing Christian parents: How can we prepare our kids to stand firm in a “Babylonian” culture bent on swaying their faith? To answer this, Catherine welcomes DJ Harry , senior pastor of Needham’s Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and cohost of the Better Together podcast. With over two decades of experience in pastoral ministry (and a background in education), DJ Harry brings powerful insights drawn from the biblical life of Daniel—a young man who stood unwaveringly for God while surrounded by pressure and compromise. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Timeless Lessons from Daniel: Drawing from the extraordinary story of Daniel and his friends, listeners are invited to reimagine the Book of Daniel as a parenting manual for today. How did teenagers like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego maintain unwavering faith in the heart of Babylon—a culture that tried to erase everything they knew and believed? You Can’t Choose When or How Your Child Will Be Tested: As DJ Harry recounts, “We don’t get to set the time or the age when our children are going to be pressured.” Like Daniel’s parents, we rarely know how or when our children’s faith will face its hardest tests, but we can choose how we prepare them now. The Power of a Well-Rounded Foundation: Daniel and his peers were chosen because of their well-rounded competence—in wisdom, learning, and character. Catherine Segars and DJ Harry challenge parents to nurture not just spiritual knowledge but also curiosity, learning, and character in their children. Facing the Reality of “Babylon” Today: The episode acknowledges the modern pressures—academic, social, and spiritual—that Christian kids face, often at younger ages than ever before. The analogy to ancient Babylon becomes all too relevant. Where Most of the Crowd Goes Missing: Listeners are reminded that most of the young men taken to Babylon “became good Babylonian young men,” disappearing into the crowd. Only a faithful few—like Daniel and his friends—stood apart. What made the difference, and how can parents cultivate that difference at home? Practical Encouragement for Uncertain Times: Personal anecdotes, including a health scare in DJ Harry 's family, bring home the message that we don’t know what tomorrow holds. Our task as parents is to lay the seeds now—academically, spiritually, emotionally—without presuming on time. Standout Moment: DJ Harry reveals, “If I want my children to have the greatest opportunity to have an impact in their Babylon, then part of that preparation is preparing them to lead in culture.” Why This Matters: In an age when research shows most church-raised kids drift from faith under cultural pressure, this episode is a wake-up call: intentional, daily spiritual formation and well-rounded preparation matter more than ever. About the Guest: DJ Harry is the senior pastor of Needham's Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and co-hosts the Better Together podcast with his wife, Lori. With a background as both a science teacher and pastor, he brings real-world experience to this biblical discussion on parenting. Parenting Takeaway: Are you cultivating an environment where your children gain not just faith, but the wisdom, skills, and confidence to stand apart in their generation? What steps can you take this week to intentionally prepare your child’s heart, mind, and character for the challenges ahead? Connect with DJ Harry : Website: Dr. Dennis Harry Don’t miss next week’s powerful conclusion—and a moment so surprising it changed the course of this interview. EPISODE LINKS: Better Together Podcast CatherineSegars.com Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Rest Isn’t a Luxury—It’s a Command: How Christian Parents Can Rediscover the Gift of Sabbath in a Nonstop World Few topics challenge modern Christian families more deeply than how—and why—to actually keep the Sabbath in our culture of relentless busyness and endless to-do lists. Have we missed one of God’s greatest gifts for our homes? Catherine is joined by Dr. Steven Hall, minister, theologian, and soul-care advocate, to guide parents through the what, why, and—most importantly—the how of Sabbath-keeping for busy families today. With nearly four decades of ministry experience, degrees in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, and as the cofounder of Ministry Oasis, Dr. Steven Hall offers a powerful, grace-filled perspective on rest that goes far beyond legalism. In this episode, you’ll discover: Sabbath as Trust, Not Legalism: Dr. Hall reveals how practicing Sabbath is less about rule-following and more about radical trust—much like the principle of tithing. "Trust is being able to say, okay. There's a hard stop here for me…I'm going to trust God with all of my unanswered emails, all my unattended bills, and all my unrun errands," shares Dr. Steven Hall 09:03. Why Rest Comes First: Many Christians “work, work, work, until we finally collapse,” but as Dr. Hall points out, God designed us to work from rest, not rest from work04:39. The Jewish day begins at sunset, with rest and worship, modeling God’s original rhythms. Practical Ways to Start: Sabbath needn’t be another item on your checklist. Dr. Hall shares practical, creative approaches for every stage of family life—from “micro-Sabbaths” to trading child care hours with other parents in your community 14:46, 20:10. Even single parents or busy caregivers can carve out sacred time, with the help of honest reflection and support. Saying “No” for a Higher Yes: Sometimes, honoring the Sabbath means courageously declining soccer games, dance recitals, or church programs that overcrowd your family’s schedule—trusting that what your children need most is a parent who models margin and abiding in Christ 25:21. Notable Quotes & Moments: “Sabbath is not about adding one more thing to your to-do list. Sabbath is about removing all the to-do things from your list.” – Dr. Steven Hall 15:21 “Imagine if parents of young children would live and teach Sabbath, their children would catch it—and break the yoke of the cultural pharaoh over their lives.” – Dr. Steven Hall 17:51 Stories of creative Sabbath-keeping, from couple tag-team strategies for parents with little kids, to the real-life example of Susanna Wesley using “micro-Sabbath” moments by simply pulling her apron over her head for prayer 31:06. About the Guest: Dr. Steven Hall is associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University and cofounder of Ministry Oasis, devoted to the soul health of pastors and ministry leaders. Ready to trade busyness for blessing? What could Sabbath look like for your family—if you trusted God enough to stop, even when the world demands more? This episode equips you not only with theological foundations, but also with inspiring ideas and practical steps to lead your home into God’s rhythm of rest. Ask yourself: What is one step you can take this week to model rest, trust, and delight in God for your children? How might your family—and your legacy—change if you made Sabbath a priority? Tune in and reclaim the gift of Sabbath for your home! Resources for Going Deeper The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Find it on Amazon A highly recommended book that explores the damaging effects of hurry and the invitation to cultivate Sabbath rhythms for a more grounded, God-centered life. Rule of Life Podcast Listen Here A podcast series (early episodes dedicated to Sabbath) that dives deep into the biblical and practical aspects of building habits of rest and renewal. Ministry Oasis Explore resources and Sabbath teachings at ministryoasis.com Dr. Steven Hall offers teaching, encouragement, and practical guidance for soul health and Sabbath keeping. Catherine Segars’ Christian Parenting Resources Get free faith-building downloads at catherinesegars.com/resources Access eBooks, podcast archives, prayers for your kids, and tools to support your journey as a Christian parent. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Most Christians would never dream of breaking the Ten Commandments—except, perhaps, one: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” Why has the fourth commandment become the one modern believers feel comfortable ignoring? Is Sabbath rest just an antiquated Old Testament burden—or could restoring it be the antidote our over-stressed homes desperately need? This week, Catherine welcomes back Dr. Steven Hall, a minister with nearly four decades of experience, associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University, and executive director of the Paul L. Walker Center for Pentecostal Preaching. An expert in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, Dr. Hall guides listeners through a rejuvenating look at the biblical roots and modern relevance of Sabbath rest. Key Episode Takeaways: A Forgotten Commandment Catherine challenges listeners to reconsider the importance of Sabbath, noting how its neglect is rarely discussed or even recognized—despite its place alongside commandments against murder and adultery (00:37). Why We Keep Breaking It According to Dr. Hall, our American hustle-culture and pipeline lifestyle lead us to run on empty—constantly pouring out, never filling up. “Capitalism based on consumerism has no room for rest,” he asserts, explaining why so many parents are exhausted and soul-weary (09:12). Sabbath: More Than Just a Rule The conversation reframes Sabbath not as a restrictive law, but as a pre-fall creation principle—woven by God into the fabric of human flourishing (as outlined in Genesis 1 and 2). “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work,” Dr. Hall emphasizes, challenging a work-first, rest-later cultural narrative (25:24). Awareness Before Obedience Catherine and Dr. Hall draw parallels to hidden sins, like the anecdote of Alexandra who unknowingly broke biblical commands before learning the truth. The episode encourages parents to move from ignorance to understanding, and to teach their children the same (16:21). The Sabbath as a Mark of God’s People Referencing Isaiah 56, Catherine points out how Sabbath-keeping was key to belonging for outsiders—all while remaining a powerful cultural counter-sign today (38:09). Not Legalism, but Life-Giving Rhythm Dr. Hall and Catherine reveal how Jesus didn’t abolish the Sabbath, but restored it as a gift for our wellbeing, not a heavy burden (45:25). A Pandemic of Hurry Drawing on John Mark Comer and other modern thinkers, the episode exposes the epidemic of “hurry sickness” ravaging our homes and hearts, stealing the very love we’re called to pour out on our families (35:19). Practical Application Awaits Look ahead to next week’s episode, where Dr. Hall will unpack “micro-Sabbathing”—real-life strategies for busy parents, caregivers, and those in nontraditional jobs who wrestle with the practicality of setting aside an entire day (46:54). Notable Quotes: “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work.” – Dr. Hall “If the devil can’t make you bad, he’ll make you busy... because if he can make you busy, he can make you tired, and when you’re tired, he can make you bad.” – Dr. Hall (23:02) “The Sabbath was never intended to become another heavy burden. It was designed to lift our burdens.” – Catherine About the Guest: Dr. Steven Hall brings decades of ministry experience, academic expertise, and a passion for spiritual formation. He currently teaches at Lee University and leads Ministry Oasis, fostering soul health among Christian leaders and families. Are you parenting from the overflow of God’s rest, or are you running on spiritual empty? What would it look like for your family to recover the life-giving rhythm of Sabbath this week? Tune in—and discover how restoring this ancient practice could transform your home, your peace, and your relationship with God for generations. Episode Links & Resources Ministry Oasis Discover more about Dr. Steven Hall’s ministry for the soul health of pastors and Christian leaders at ministryoasis.com Books Mentioned The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Find it on Amazon Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer Find it on Amazon Works by Walter Brueggemann, including Sabbath as Resistance Find it on Amazon Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete Scazzero Find it on Amazon Catherine’s Free Parenting Resources Access free ebooks, scripture lists, podcast bundles, and more to equip you for Christian parenting at: catherinesegars.com/resources Or contact Catherine directly at: catherine@catherinesegars.com Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What if your family had a mission as clear as any thriving organization? Without intentionality, families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos. In a world pulling parents in a thousand directions, many Christian families find themselves simply reacting, drifting instead of living with God-given purpose. In this must-listen episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine sits down with Derek England, Executive Director of Family ID—a ministry with over 25 years of experience equipping parents to build intentional, value-driven homes. Why This Episode Matters: Every family drifts—unless you set your direction on purpose. Few of us stop to ask, “Why has God brought our unique family together?” or, “How do we intentionally pass on our core values?” Catherine and Derek England shine a spotlight on the practical and biblical tools that can transform your family from surviving to thriving. Guest Highlight: Derek England is not only leading Family ID but has personally experienced how clarifying family identity can radically alter the trajectory of a home. His heart is for every family—from toddlers to teens—to discover their God-given calling together. What You’ll Discover in This Episode Why Family Culture Matters Catherine reminds us that “families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos.” The foundational strength of your family is the most important ministry, eclipsing even your career and outside achievements. Intentionality Over Drift Derek England explains how, after years of approaching work with strategy and goals but “taking family one day at a time,” he and his wife attended a Family ID workshop and immediately knew they’d found what was missing. “Once you think it, you can't unthink it.” Your Family’s God-Given Uniqueness Not every family is called to the same mission. Discover the importance of answering the question: “Who are we?” Hear how Family ID helps thousands of families articulate their unique identity, purpose, and direction—with tools that actually shape daily life. The 16 Family Types Using research and decades of experience, Family ID has identified 16 different family cultures—from “harmonious” (like the elephant: connected and relational) to “focused” (passionate, intentional, persistent). Find out how an online, totally free assessment can help you discover yours. Living Out Core Values Hear how Derek England’s family intentionally chooses and lives by five core values such as “radically protective of quality time” and “unwavering integrity.” Learn why having just a handful of clearly-stated values provides a shared language and an anchor for decision-making—even for young kids. Practical Tools You Can Use Today Family ID offers bite-sized videos and workbooks to walk you through creating your own family identity, mission, and values—accessible online, easy to do in short sittings, and free from cost barriers. The Family ID process includes resources to ensure every voice—including your kids’—is heard as you clarify and celebrate your unique family strengths. Notable Quotes & Moments “When you know who you are, you’ll know what to do.” – Derek England “Our family didn’t start with us, and it won’t end with our kids.” – Derek England “Where there is a lack of vision, the people perish… Where there’s a lack of vision for your family, it won’t thrive.” – Catherine Anecdotes That Hit Home Catherine shares how her daughter discovered a laser-focus and passion in Civil Air Patrol after struggling with direction—a real-life testimony to the power of clarifying vision. Families are reminded that it’s never too late, quoting: “The best time to plant a tree is ten years ago. The second best time is today.” Why This Conversation Is Essential for Christian Parents In an era of fractured schedules and constant distractions, this episode equips parents to reclaim the sacred calling of the family—to be the primary place of discipleship, love, and generational impact. Whether your home feels harmonious, focused, or a work in progress, you’ll come away with both hope and practical tools to lead your family with vision and unity. About the Guest: Derek England serves as Executive Director of Family ID, a ministry devoted to helping families worldwide build intentional and faith-filled homes. With over two decades of expertise—and his own journey transformed through the Family ID process—he’s passionate about helping parents move from reaction to intentionality. Are you ready to answer: “Who are we?” Visit family-id.com to take the free family identity assessment and begin building your family mission today. Your Call To Action: How would your family change if you decided today to live with intention? Why not gather for dinner this week and ask, “Who are we—really?” Take the Family ID assessment together and start a new chapter of purpose-driven parenting. Don’t drift—build! Your family is worth it. Resources/Links Family ID – Free Family Identity Assessment & Master Class Discover your unique family type, core values, and intentional strategies to build a faith-filled home using the Family ID online assessment and resources. Catherine Segars’ Free Resources for Christian Parents Access devotionals, scripture lists, articles, and tools to help you thrive as a Christian parent in today’s world. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Who Gets to Define the Next Generation? Gen Z Finds Its Voice—and Its Anchor—in Christ Is Gen Z lost in the noise of culture, media, and politics—or are they quietly forging a radical new path of faith? In this powerful episode, Catherine sits down with high school senior and gifted poet Charis Shoemaker to explore how today’s young Christians are wrestling with identity, truth, and calling in an ever-fractured world. If you wonder what the next generation truly believes, and how Christian parents can encourage their kids to pursue God in the midst of cultural chaos, this is an episode you cannot afford to miss. About Our Guest: Charis Shoemaker is no ordinary teenager. A state award-winning actress, an eloquent poet, and—most importantly—a passionate follower of Christ, she represents a new wave of young believers speaking up for authentic faith. Charis’ original poem, “They Say,” recently brought a packed house to their feet at her homeschool graduation, voicing the hopes and struggles of a generation determined to follow Christ—no matter the cost. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Gen Z Under the Microscope Listen as Charis shares firsthand what it’s like to grow up constantly defined—often unfairly—by societal labels, politics, and the relentless barrage of social media. In an era of fractured opinions, what do young people really hear about who or what they’re supposed to be? The Power of Godly Influence Charis opens up about her own journey, including profound family challenges and the steady faith of her mother, a night-shift nurse who made time for Scripture and prayer no matter how hard life got. Her story testifies to the quiet resilience that shapes faith behind the scenes. A Poetic Anthem for Gen Z Hear Charis' captivating poem, “They Say,” in full. Her words challenge generational stereotypes and culture’s attempts to define identity—while serving as an anthem for those who choose to be defined not by people, but by the voice of God. “If my life is to revolve around opinions, I would much rather they come from a God who is preeminent than a people who are insignificant... I would much rather they be words spoken by the Word who became flesh for me.” – Charis Shoemaker, 19:15 Dealing with Church Hurt and Pain Charis recounts personal battles—including abuse and disappointment with the Church—and how those wounds could have derailed her faith. Yet, she found hope, healing, and her truest identity in Jesus. Parents will find wisdom here for helping kids process pain with grace rather than anger or withdrawal. Who Gets to Define Us? The conversation zeroes in on the theme of authority, urging listeners to ask tough questions: Is our identity determined by culture, by the Church, by ourselves—or solely by God, the Creator who names us and calls us His own? Hope Rising in Gen Z Contrary to stereotypes, Charis reveals that a growing number of her peers are returning to church and hungry for real, unfiltered truth. She challenges parents not to underestimate Gen Z's capacity—and desire—for deep faith, and encourages both generations to risk bold, loving conversations about what matters most. “There’s a generation coming up after you that wants truth…Be there for us. Give us that thing to hold on to.” – Charis Shoemaker, 53:38 Why This Matters: In a season when so much is said about the failures and fears of the next generation, this episode highlights a surprising undercurrent: Gen Z isn’t just walking away—they’re wrestling, seeking, and often returning to the God who defines them. Catherine and Charis Shoemaker’s honest exchange offers hope to every parent praying for their child’s faith journey. Memorable Moments: The story of Charis Shoemaker's friend whose final words were simply, “Trust Jesus”—a moving reminder of the enduring legacy of authentic faith (35:33). An inspiring encounter with a peer who worships “mother earth” and how open conversation sows seeds of truth and friendship (52:53). The recognition that every generation faces labels, but the only voice that matters is God’s. Modern Application: Christian parents, take heart! The next generation is listening, watching, and longing for truth—especially from you. Your example, prayers, and honest conversations matter more than ever. As you foster their search for identity, remember: God alone must anchor our children in a world desperate to define them. Call to Action: How are you helping your children—or the young people in your life—listen to God’s voice above all others? This week, try having an open conversation about identity and faith at home. Share your own story, and invite them to share theirs—uncut, unfiltered, and real. Resources Mentioned: “Gay Girl, Good God” by Jackie Hill Perry The Narrow Road (song by Reagan James Boone) Let us know: How are you equipping your family to anchor their identity in Christ, not in what “they say”? Share your thoughts and experiences with us on social media, or email your parenting questions for future episodes! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In an age when the foundations of freedom are being shaken around the world, this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World asks a pivotal question: Can freedom last if we forget where it truly comes from? Far beyond politics or constitutions, is it possible to have real liberty apart from God? Catherine welcomes world-renowned author, philosopher, and social critic Os Guinness for a thought-provoking conversation that every parent needs to hear. Os Guinness holds a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford and has authored more than 30 books, including The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom. Few voices are better equipped to explore the intersection of faith, freedom, and society. What You’ll Discover in This Episode The True Origin of Freedom: Dive into the biblical roots of liberty as Os Guinness explains why the foundation of our freedom is found not in political documents, but in the Genesis declaration that every human bears the image of God. This “Magna Carta for humanity” has shaped Western civilization and remains the bedrock for genuine human dignity and rights. Freedom’s Decline—and Hope for Renewal: With authoritarianism on the rise and Western society in decline, Os Guinness calls for a return to the sustaining truths found in Scripture. He unpacks why evil, injustice, and oppression are not to be accepted as normal or final, but always fought in the name of the God who freely creates and redeems. Can We Keep Our Freedom? Os Guinness shares his "golden triangle" of freedom—freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and faith requires freedom—pointing out that each is under assault in today's culture. The Power of Family Stories: In a stirring insight, Os Guinness recalls how, on the night of the Exodus, Moses didn’t speak of freedom, but of children. The stories shared in our homes, he argues, are the key to both personal identity and the future of nations—a reminder that parents play a vital, irreplaceable role in transmitting truth to the next generation. Practical Hope for Parents: Catherine and Os Guinness urge parents not to underestimate the power of daily faithfulness—praying, teaching, modeling, and talking with your children about God’s story. These small, seemingly ordinary acts are what shape the leaders and culture-changers of tomorrow. Notable Quotes & Moments “Freedom has everything to do with faith, not fate. Slavery is the norm in history, and abolition is the exception.” — Os Guinness “The stories parents tell to their children are the key to identity and the key to continuity.” — Os Guinness “We are the creative minority… We’ve gotta be that with courage and confidence and know that under the Lord, it will make a difference.” — Os Guinness Why This Matters At a time when culture and education are shifting rapidly, this episode is a clarion call for Christian parents: the future of faith and freedom lies in your hands. The conversations you have, the scriptures you teach, and the faith you live out day by day can transform generations. Modern Application Moms and dads, never underestimate your influence. Building your family on the unchanging truth of Scripture, you hold the key to preserving not only your children’s faith but the very foundations of liberty for the future. About the Guest Os Guinness (born 1941) is an English author, theologian, and social critic. Born in China to medical missionaries, he witnessed the 1949 revolution. Educated at the University of London and Oxford, he has written over 30 books—including The Call and The Magna Carta of Humanity—and founded the Trinity Forum Episode Links The Magna Carta of Humanity by Os Guinness Os Guinness Website: ozguinness.com Additional resources for Christian parents: catherinesegars.com Reflect & Discuss How are you passing on the story of God’s freedom to your children? In what ways can your family life become a “creative minority” that shapes the next generation for truth and liberty? Share your thoughts, start the conversation at home, and let’s become the few who make the difference. Subscribe, review, and share—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Is America losing the true meaning of freedom? As we celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, this urgent episode probes the foundations of liberty, the threats facing our nation, and what it takes to safeguard freedom for our children and generations to come. In a riveting and timely conversation, host Catherine welcomes Dr. Os Guinness—esteemed philosopher, prolific author of 30+ books, and Oxford-educated scholar—on Christian Parent/Crazy World. As one of the last surviving Western eyewitnesses to the Chinese Communist Revolution, Os Guinness brings a one-in-eight-billion perspective on Marxism, the power of faith amid crisis, and the unique roots of American freedom. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: The Origins of True Freedom Explore why the American experiment stands apart from every other revolution in history, and how its “ordered freedom” is rooted not in Enlightenment thinkers, but in the biblical model of the Hebrew Republic (13:42). Discover the “Golden Triangle of Freedom”—the idea that freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and faith requires freedom—and why this cycle is essential for a nation to remain free (05:21). Firsthand Testimony from History’s Crucible Hear Os Guinness recount surviving the trauma and reign of terror in Communist China as a child, witnessing trials, executions, and famine that claimed the lives of his own brothers (07:47, 11:28). Learn how his experiences shaped an unflinching realism about Marxism and the dangers of revolutionary utopianism (09:09). Dueling Revolutions: Bible vs. Enlightenment Unpack the stark contrast between the American and French Revolutions—their sources, their visions of justice, and why one led to ordered liberty while the other spiraled into totalitarianism (18:25). The “Long March” Through Culture Grasp the strategies used by cultural Marxists to capture education, media, law, family, and religion—aiming to reshape the very core of society (28:02). Understand why so many college-bound Christian kids lose their faith, and the urgent need for Christian parents to cultivate resilient worldviews in their children (28:53). Why Freedom Is Fragile—And How to Guard It Be warned: “Freedom is the great enemy of freedom. When we misuse freedom, we will eventually lose it.” (42:10) Hear the powerful call to Christian citizens—why voting, cultural engagement, and long-haul disciple-making in families and churches matter now more than ever (34:38). Quotable Moments & Anecdotes “Freedom is not the permission to do what you like. Freedom is the power to do what you ought.” (41:13) The story of Derek Prince’s prayer for a leader in WWII—and how God answered, changing the course of history (37:37). Why This Matters for Christian Parents: Our children are being taught that freedom means “license”—the ability to do whatever we want. This episode powerfully reframes freedom as a God-given power and responsibility to do what is right. As parents, understanding and passing on the true source and nature of freedom is nothing less than essential—because only faith-fueled virtue can preserve liberty. About Dr. Os Guinness: With a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford, Os Guinness is globally recognized for his insight into faith, freedom, and society. Raised in China and forged amid revolution, his lifetime of scholarship and firsthand experience make him uniquely qualified to speak on the future of freedom. His latest book, The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom, provides the roadmap for this conversation. Episode Links & Resources: The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai's Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom by Os Guinness Os Guinness website Catherine's Parenting Resources A Call to Action: What are you doing to plant deep-rooted seeds of faith and freedom in your children? As America stands at a crossroads, how will your family uphold the true foundations of liberty in a culture drifting from its source? Join the conversation—because lasting freedom begins at home. Don’t miss next week’s archive episode as Catherine and Os Guinness explore the breath-taking biblical truth that every human is made in the image of God—and what that means for the future of freedom. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.