Who Decides What Is Good? Atheism, Genesis & Two Very Different Debates

Two debates. Two very different settings. But underneath both conversations was a surprisingly similar question: Who gets to decide what is actually good? Tim Stratton recently debated atheist Richard Suttles on objective morality and whether our moral experience points beyond ourselves—or whether morality merely seems objectively real. Meanwhile, Josh Klein found himself in a very different conversation with New Age thinker Napah Shadah, discussing the Bible, morality, the Garden of Eden, and the remarkable claim that Jesus was the serpent in Genesis 3.

In this episode, Josh and Tim break down key moments from both debates, examine the arguments being made, and explore what happens when human beings become the ultimate authority for defining good and evil.

Can atheism account for objective moral truth?

Could our moral intuitions simply be an evolutionary illusion?

Does the Bible condone evil?

And what should Christians make of the claim that the serpent in Eden was actually Jesus? Two very different debates—but perhaps not such a different underlying issue after all.

➡️ WATCH THE FULL DEBATES Tim Stratton vs. Richard Suttles — Debate on Morality: https://youtu.be/Pje49p6ERKI?si=RkUG1e7XQkargnES

Josh Klein & Napah Shadah — Digital Social Hour: https://www.youtube.com/live/AIM5mL8doWM?si=6HWE3OyltQ44AWsU

Josh's response to the argument concerning the Holy Spirit being feminine comes during the final portion of the Digital Social Hour conversation.

➡️ CHAPTERS

00:00 Two Debates, One Theme

07:48 Does Objective Morality Exist?

19:22 The Ultimate Moral Argument for God

32:23 Is Objective Morality Just an Illusion?

46:31 Does the Bible Condone Rape? | The New Age Debate

1:02:07 Was Jesus the Serpent in Genesis 3? 1:20:27

How Christians Should Debate

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