Tortoises 🐢, Hares 🐇, & Hardship 😩 :: Episode 185

Today on Talk About That, John abandons Jonnie at a 5k race 🏃🏼‍♂️, and Jonnie holds a 20 year grudge about it. Meanwhile, we ponder the moral panic surrounding drug culture💊in the 80’s & 90’s, and the resulting fallout.

Plus, a conversation on pain and purpose, and why some conflict is actually good.

Todays episode is NOT sponsored by Pepsi®️🥤 : “Are we okay??" 

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