Episode 38: Guest David Kinnaman

Phil and Skye talk about Super Bowl commercials and pastors behaving poorly in Applebee's.  Then they're joined by author/researcher David Kinnaman for a fascinating discussion about Christians and their views on religious freedom in America.  Finally, Phil summarizes with a song.  It doesn't go so well.

David Kinnaman is the president and majority owner of Barna Group. He is the author of the bestselling books, You Lost Me and unChristian.